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SAMPLERS

Post by le_knigh » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:23 pm

need a sampler and to be fare i aint got a clue where to start..am uk bound so any feed back from the my side of things would be apporable...
heard about the asr 10 but only seem to come up with u.s sellers...also the mpc 4000...any body know about local samplers ,,cheap and cheerful would be a moto to :)..cheers

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Post by serox » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:34 pm

TROOPA wrote:need a sampler and to be fare i aint got a clue where to start..am uk bound so any feed back from the my side of things would be apporable...
heard about the asr 10 but only seem to come up with u.s sellers...also the mpc 4000...any body know about local samplers ,,cheap and cheerful would be a moto to :)..cheers
you want a hardware sampler, why?
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Post by hurlingdervish » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:35 pm

steer clear of mpc's

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Post by FSTZ1 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:36 pm

TROOPA wrote:need a sampler and to be fare i aint got a clue where to start..am uk bound so any feed back from the my side of things would be apporable...
heard about the asr 10 but only seem to come up with u.s sellers...also the mpc 4000...any body know about local samplers ,,cheap and cheerful would be a moto to :)..cheers
ASR 10's are antiques and NOT very portable (but if you do buy one, I have plenty of drum kits for you)

I recommend an MPC

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Post by FSTZ1 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:45 pm

Serox wrote:you want a hardware sampler, why?
If you are an "in the box" producer, you should use something like Kontakt, EmulatorX2, etc...

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Post by globalbabylon » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:48 pm

get a laptop. Sampler, synths, drum machines, all in one. Plus you can play gigs on it, way better move for the money.

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Post by serox » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:50 pm

FSTZ wrote:
Serox wrote:you want a hardware sampler, why?
If you are an "in the box" producer, you should use something like Kontakt, EmulatorX2, etc...
Dont get me wrong I would like to have an MPC to play with but from what I understand antique/oldskool samplers are more hassle than they are worth.
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:58 pm

Serox wrote:
FSTZ wrote:
Serox wrote:you want a hardware sampler, why?
If you are an "in the box" producer, you should use something like Kontakt, EmulatorX2, etc...
Dont get me wrong I would like to have an MPC to play with but from what I understand antique/oldskool samplers are more hassle than they are worth.
hardly

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Post by hurlingdervish » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:00 pm

if your going to get a sampler, make a collection of it

find as many bargain bin shitty ones as you can

your bound to get glitches and malfunctions out of them which will yield great sounds

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Post by FSTZ1 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:10 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:if your going to get a sampler, make a collection of it

find as many bargain bin shitty ones as you can

your bound to get glitches and malfunctions out of them which will yield great sounds
not sure what kinda experiences you are basing this advice on, but I honestly think you are misled

akai s100 - s5000 series are still awesome

Emu samplers are still legendary

but if you want a new hardware sampling solution under $1000, I am going to say that you cannot go wrong with an mpc 1000

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Post by paradigm_x » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:12 pm

where in UK are you ?

You can have my 10MB Akai S2000 for £30 (plus shipping if you cant pick uip near stockport) if you want

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Post by FSTZ1 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:14 pm

Paradigm X wrote:where in UK are you ?

You can have my 10MB Akai S2000 for £30 (plus shipping if you cant pick uip near stockport) if you want
there ya go

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Re: SAMPLERS

Post by 3za » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:44 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:
Serox wrote:
FSTZ wrote:
Serox wrote:you want a hardware sampler, why?
If you are an "in the box" producer, you should use something like Kontakt, EmulatorX2, etc...
Dont get me wrong I would like to have an MPC to play with but from what I understand antique/oldskool samplers are more hassle than they are worth.
hardly
i also dont get the point of hardware samplers. i get the point of having a hardsynth.

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Post by le_knigh » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:45 pm

wow..nice 1 guys ,,just really wana get into this samplin fing its all new for me and its like the first time u never had ur first music software...as goes for the akai s2000...10mb,,could u run that by me, sory have just come on so gona research but sounds all good to me dude, am ipswich though so post n pakaging i shall be payin...

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Post by le_knigh » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:55 pm

just researched the akai 2000, still lost ,,nothin ever explains in visual format..:/...basically i would like to get into sampling old songs, by vynil usage, chop em up and away i go!..is this possible though this equipment?..cheers

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Post by serox » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:01 pm

TROOPA wrote:just researched the akai 2000, still lost ,,nothin ever explains in visual format..:/...basically i would like to get into sampling old songs, by vynil usage, chop em up and away i go!..is this possible though this equipment?..cheers
why dont you use software? it was not long ago you was asking how do I make 'wobble', you sure you want a hardware sampler?
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Post by paradigm_x » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:15 pm

TROOPA wrote:just researched the akai 2000, still lost ,,nothin ever explains in visual format..:/...basically i would like to get into sampling old songs, by vynil usage, chop em up and away i go!..is this possible though this equipment?..cheers
its entirely possible, thats what a sampler is. frankly it would be a nightmare on a s2000 (DH may disagree), 32 character screen, no waveform display, saving to disk, only 2 outputs, 10mb limit, need a mixer, etcetcetc... i used mine for years and years and while chopping eg an amen is possible, its a huge PITA.

to be honest mate, no disrespect, but a new tool prob wont help if youre learning, get a free pc sampler (eg shortcircuit) and sit and play with it for a few days, months, years... i can do in half an hour what took days literally on the akai.

the reason people like 'classic' boxes is the sound, not ease of use - if youre (from what i gather in this thread) still learning, then itll just make things more confusing TBH IMO.

10mb is the amount of memory in my Akai. It cn go up to 32mb. but unless you find an (obsolete) scsi card or zip drive etc, youre going to be loading from/saving to 1.44mb disks.

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Post by DZA » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:16 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:steer clear of mpc's
:o :o :o
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Post by hurlingdervish » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:21 pm

The_Dza88 wrote:
hurlingdervish wrote:steer clear of mpc's
:o :o :o
why bother when theres trigger finger and drum rack....

other samplers have quirks and characteristics

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Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:24 pm

Paradigm X wrote:
TROOPA wrote:just researched the akai 2000, still lost ,,nothin ever explains in visual format..:/...basically i would like to get into sampling old songs, by vynil usage, chop em up and away i go!..is this possible though this equipment?..cheers
its entirely possible, thats what a sampler is. frankly it would be a nightmare on a s2000 (DH may disagree), 32 character screen, no waveform display, saving to disk, only 2 outputs, 10mb limit, need a mixer, etcetcetc... i used mine for years and years and while chopping eg an amen is possible, its a huge PITA.

to be honest mate, no disrespect, but a new tool prob wont help if youre learning, get a free pc sampler (eg shortcircuit) and sit and play with it for a few days, months, years... i can do in half an hour what took days literally on the akai.

the reason people like 'classic' boxes is the sound, not ease of use - if youre (from what i gather in this thread) still learning, then itll just make things more confusing TBH IMO.

10mb is the amount of memory in my Akai. It cn go up to 32mb. but unless you find an (obsolete) scsi card or zip drive etc, youre going to be loading from/saving to 1.44mb disks.

:4:
yea the 32 mb upgrade is cheap and it's pretty easy getting a scsi card. with wavelab or recycle 2.0 i have no problem managing my samples, but yea i backup to floppies :lol:

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