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making your own accapella

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:02 pm
by _boring
i know you can delete all the other frequencys to create somewhat of an accapella with something like ozone, can anyone do this for me , i will send the tune on AIM. thanks!

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:12 pm
by deadly_habit
the closest you can get is through using an instrumental and flipping the phase on it then layering it up perfectly with the original which in theory should cancel out each other and only leave the vox, but rarely does it leave 100% clean or work out perfect
as far as some magic vst or eq solution to make an acapella nah dood nah
you can just eq/filter out frequency bands, but more than likely there is going to be instruments in the same range as the vox
oh and www.acapellas4u.co.uk

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:32 pm
by _boring
Deadly Habit wrote:the closest you can get is through using an instrumental and flipping the phase on it then layering it up perfectly with the original which in theory should cancel out each other and only leave the vox, but rarely does it leave 100% clean or work out perfect
as far as some magic vst or eq solution to make an acapella nah dood nah
you can just eq/filter out frequency bands, but more than likely there is going to be instruments in the same range as the vox
oh and www.acapellas4u.co.uk
canceling frequencies should work yea thats what im after, i dont need a clean accapella, i could perhaps contact the artist as i have been in contact with him before.

btw im trying to do a 2step remix of this song at 137bpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO76_XtvIQI

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:34 pm
by deadly_habit
please don't :oops:

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:34 pm
by _boring
that song is siiiick its one of my fav albums, it sounds like arse on that video tho

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:15 am
by hurlingdervish
ableton live does the phase inversion with no processing at all

drop utility on to the channel and turn up the width to 200 percent

that way you can speed through songs to see if they are worth the sample or mashup

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:09 am
by knobgoblin
if you are in contact with them, they should be able to provide you with an accapella. If not, you might just chop out the key bits of the song and treat the whole thing as a sample.

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:45 pm
by karmacazee
A lot of old records (like a lot of The Beatles' stuff) was mixed and panned weirdly, often with the drums panned to one sde, and the vocals and bass on another. If you pan 'A Day in the Life' hard right, you'll be left with just John Lennon's vocals and a bit of the bass track. Nifty.

I always pan old songs to see if there are any useable accappellas.

Just don't try it on the remastered versions...

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:47 pm
by q23
In order for the instrumental 180 degree phase cancellation trick to work, the instrumental needs to be the exact same track that was used for the vocal version as well. If there is any variation, whatever is different between the two (including the vocal, obviously) will be left over).

This is how many remix artists get their vocals out of a song, without having to hit up cold storage to find a tails out master reel, then hunt down a 2 inch 24 track reel to reel player and 24 track mixing console.....

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:30 pm
by ifon
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Yes, phase cancellation of full/instrumental is your best bet.
One that did work very well with this is Beastie Boys - Check it out

http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/ can sometimes get you something workable, if you are willing to use backing music that masks the audio artifacts.

http://virtualturntable.fourstones.net/ ... n-tutorial

IIRC there is an updated tutorial somewhere that uses Adobe Audition centre channel extraction as well.

Other than that, some people have been using DVD mixes for cases where the mixing is just so http://www.acapellas4u.co.uk/topic14713.html
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:07 am
by HAACK
Deadly Habit wrote:the closest you can get is through using an instrumental and flipping the phase on it then layering it up perfectly with the original which in theory should cancel out each other and only leave the vox, but rarely does it leave 100% clean or work out perfect
as far as some magic vst or eq solution to make an acapella nah dood nah
you can just eq/filter out frequency bands, but more than likely there is going to be instruments in the same range as the vox
oh and www.acapellas4u.co.uk
Jha :W: