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Software advice?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:07 am
by s i c k b o y
Oreet!
I'm looking into getting some new software but not quite sure what is best for my needs... I'm currently using Reason 4 which is great for MIDI, but I need to be able to record real instruments (and my copy of Reason 4 has files missing so I can't do ReWire). I want to be able to record guitar, piano, vocals and bass guitar but also be able to make nice synth sounds and have decent drum programming. I've thought about getting Pro Tools 8 but I haven't heard much about it, I also considered Native Instruments Massive... anyone got any advice as to which would be the most suitable software? I need some decent reverb/delay effects available too.
Cheers
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:28 am
by sifres
Your asking for a lot of info at once... Maybe check out this thread, and the DAWS part in particular.
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14797
Personally I think everybody should use ableton... But hey, that's me!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:29 am
by mickledan
or if ur happy with reason just wait for record to drop, does exactly what it says on the tin
check the prop site
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:44 am
by lowpass
Think records already out (by a few weeks)
I'd think about cubase if you are new to recording, pro tools is good but its a bit complex and expensive (even if you get le)
massive is a very good synth for raw sounds, lvoe it
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:02 am
by deadly_habit
cubase or pro tools
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:43 am
by djake
one word ABLETON!
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:47 am
by ponte_ricky
whats massive? i'd never heard of it before i came on here. is it another DAW?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:48 am
by djake
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:54 am
by ruaridh
id go with protools or cubase and then download the missing files from your reason 4. then you can rewire and not be as confused for the learning curve of your new daw.
also there is a rediculous amount of video and book tutorials on how to use both of them.especiallly pro tools.
but if your just looking to record most daws will do it for ya
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:08 pm
by s i c k b o y
from what i've read online it seems like you need specific hardware for cubase and pro tools... on the propellerhead website it says that Record comes out 9th September... I've got hold of a copy of FL Studio 8, gonna have a go with that and try figure out how to ReWire it into Reason 4 for now - hopefully il get Record when it comes out in September.
Thanks for the advice guys
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:12 pm
by ruaridh
yea you need ilocs and usb dongle thingys for protools and cubase
but cubase has direct note access...
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:03 pm
by spkta
fl8 is great, once you get rewire all figured out try ableton too, i believe it comes with a recording device and its great for performing live. if not, i think reaktor is good for this but i cant say as ive never used it... might be something completely different...
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:43 am
by Arshaw
djake wrote:one word ABLETON!
+ 1
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am
by futures_untold
For ease of use and value for money, FL Studio, Ableton and Reaper are great. If you have lots of cash, Cubase (dongle), Pro Tools (hardware interfaces) and Logic (Mac) are the way forwards. (or if you think up/down instead of sideways, try Renoise, which is also very cheap).
Your 'copy' of Reason should have all the files present. Try reinstalling it or obtaining a new (legal?) copy.
I've voiced this before, but for me, Cubase makes my head go dizzy trying to get around the convoluted workflow. (Although plenty of cubase users here will disagree no doubt).
Personally, Ableton, Logic and Reaper have been the easiest and most accessible programs I've used.
Download some demos as mentioned above and test them for yourself before purchasing!
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:18 pm
by deadly_habit
Ruaridh wrote:yea you need ilocs and usb dongle thingys for protools and cubase
but cubase has direct note access...
it's not an ilok it's the steinberg key. pro tools requires the mbox and an ilok.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:39 pm
by contakt321
this Kid named Lamont wrote:djake wrote:one word ABLETON!
+ 1
+1
I can't recommend Ableton enough for being incredibly intuitive and having a quick workflow.
That being said, download some demos and see what works best for you.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:44 pm
by Jah Billah
sickboy leeds wrote: I've got hold of a copy of FL Studio 8, gonna have a go with that and try figure out how to ReWire it into Reason 4 for now -
On the right track here, but mek sure you have Ableton as master, run Reason & FL as slaves. Add bunch of samples & VSTs n you're good to go!!!!!
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:36 pm
by alphacat
Even though I just switched over to it from another DAW and still have a lot to learn...
REAPER. (
http://www.reaper.fm)
The feature set in this program is quite robust and getting bigger every day; MIDI editing capabilities are decent (better than Acid's anyway) and improving at a rapid pace; plugin support is great; and best of all? You don't have to spend anything to get going with the full version!
Seriously, I've been working in Acid for over a decade and was worried that making the switch would be difficult - but the workflow is actually turning out to be smoother despite not knowing a fraction of the commands, functionality, all that.
At worst just download it and play with it a bit - if it works, great, you've found your new DAW. If not, great, now you know a little bit more overall anyway... without spending a shitload of cash to find out.
But don't take my word for it, just ask any one of the other Reaper users - old and new - floating around here, like Futures_Untold...