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So lets discuss this shit. Lets REALLY dissect it.


CAP'N JAZZ

Tim Kinsella
Mike Kinsella
Sam Zurick
Victor Villareal
Davey von Bohlen


and the post-jazz fall out:

The Sky Corvair
The Promise Ring
Make Believe
Owls
Vermont
American Football
Ghosts and Vodka
Joan of Arc
Owen
Maritime


etc etc.



I've been listening to OWEN rather obsessively. Perhaps the most simple, to the point music i've heard in a while. I was a big fan of American Football, they really had it. OWEN is like American Football stripped to the basics.. all the good bits. That has been my post - Cap'n Jazz attention as of late. OWEN, me, seems to make sense for some reason.

Cap'n Jazz - literally a group of kids @ the time. NOISY kids. They would never have known how influential or referenced they could have been years later huh? Crazy.


Feel free to discuss. Thanx.

I love Cap'n Jazz, Owls, American Football and Owen, the other bands didn't really 'click' with me in the same way. I missed Mike Kinsella last time he was over here, was gutted

^ like i said.. obsessively enjoying the OWEN experience as of late. Everything they have out, on shuffle, repeat. Love it. Its incredibly honest music. Goes down great. I love the lyric " .. you in love with the Cocteau Twins, you're bored with your boyfriend", from Poor Souls. Shit like that. Eloquent really ha.

Bad Abuse, from I Do Percieve.. amazing piece of music. Very Red House Painters, the atmosphere, melody. Addicting. Just walking around Vancouver, listening to OWEN... great.



I got into the Make Believe stuff quite a bit too. I was trying to decide whether or not i like Tim Kinsella's "singing" or not, after all these years - i mean, so he can't sing, he's a horrible "singer" from the conventional point of view, but that's the point right? Cap'n Jazz was great - full on hardcore punk, yet deciding its own rules - and yes, it very much was hardcore at times. I prefer Tim as a punk rock singer, yelling, screaming, doing his thing, with a harder band behind him, otherwise, it all gets a bit lost. But once again, that's the charm i guess right? But do you have the tolerance for it? That's the question. I just won't be listening much. Tim needs the ROCK behind him, imo.

Make Believe is great post-hardcore. The instrumentation is really cool, reminds me of Storm and Stress sometimes. With Tim doing his thing. The Sky Corvair thing was ok too. Once again, great hc punk for the time. I was a fan of Gauge too.

Joan of Arc's my favorite.

I'm a huge Mike Kinsella fan, American Football being my most favorite of that list. I had not heard of a couple of the other bands and am going to definitely check them out.

disc 1 of analphabetapolothology is probably the most played cd i own. still listen to it regularly..the other bands, with the exception of AF and owls never really 'clicked' for me, might give owen a try though.

I NEVER

though I would see this thread on DSF

Cap'n Jazz are one of my all time favourite bands ever, I could talk about them and Joan of Arc related projects for days.

what other emo (not "emo") bands are you lot into? I must be one of the biggest nerds for that type of stuff around!

why no mention of Nate Kinsellas latest lp as Birthmark? beautiful record

emo sux y, go listen to fckn taking back sunday you fckn fggt >='0

Cap'n Jazz sounds a lot like early At The Drive-In.

Native Nod is the greatest emo band ever, though.

Joe C wrote:
what other emo (not "emo") bands are you lot into? I must be one of the biggest nerds for that type of stuff around!

Native Nod, Hoover, Policy Of Three, Heroin (got one of their EPs on vinyl, quite proud of it, found it on a grindcore/powerviolence distro's site, holy crap), Maximillian Colby, Jejune, Fugazi, Moss Icon, Mohinder, Merel, Lungfish, Sleepytime Trio, Indian Summer...

Sunny Day Real Estate's first record is still awesome (by the way, they're reforming and touring Cali). Mineral's 'The Power of Failing' is great too. That type of mid '90s pop emo is hard to pull off right but a few bands did it right at the time...

All the regulars, really.

small brown bike, hot water music, indian summer, fugazi, texas is the reason were my faves. and bear vs shark, although they're a bit newer. most of these still get a spin once a week or so.

Some goods bands mentioned above, still listen to Sunny Day Real Estate a lot, some early Get Up Kids stuff, Jawbreaker, Rites of Spring, some Appleseed Cast, it's all good.

Was more into the HC side of things to be honest, Neil Perry, Saetia (probs one of my fave bands of all time), City of Caterpillar, As the Sun Sets, pg. 99 etc etc

Dude's discussing emo & screamo & post-hardcore on dsf, woop!

I'm a big fan of Cap'n Jazz (and related). I guess you guys are into Jawbreaker too then?

Screamo is more my kinda thing though. I'm reet into Jeromes Dream, Orchid, La Quiete, Raein, CoC, Daitro, Portrait, Funeral Diner, Ampere & loads of other great stuff.

Some great bands mentioned already in this thread, any of you guys into more European emo/screamo bands?

Mihai Edrisch, La Quiete, Daitro, Louise Cyphre, Belle Epoque, Le pré où je suis mort, Raein, Neil on Impression, Ekkaia

Neil On Impression is a Post-Rock band. There's nothing emo nor skramzzzzz about them (well, apart from the fact they share members with Raein)

guid band but!

Tomm wrote:Neil On Impression is a Post-Rock band. There's nothing emo nor skramzzzzz about them (well, apart from the fact they share members with Raein)

guid band but!

I think there is a definite influence though. I understand your viewpoint and agree they are fundementally a post-rock band, but the chord sequences throughout the songs on The Perfect Tango could come from so many european emo bands..

What about the UK scene at the minute? Kids Return are so good! I literally haven't stopped playing the tongue tied lp since i got it.

Genevieve wrote:

Joe C wrote:
what other emo (not "emo") bands are you lot into? I must be one of the biggest nerds for that type of stuff around!

Native Nod, Hoover, Policy Of Three, Heroin (got one of their EPs on vinyl, quite proud of it, found it on a grindcore/powerviolence distro's site, holy crap), Maximillian Colby, Jejune, Fugazi, Moss Icon, Mohinder, Merel, Lungfish, Sleepytime Trio, Indian Summer...

Sunny Day Real Estate's first record is still awesome (by the way, they're reforming and touring Cali). Mineral's 'The Power of Failing' is great too. That type of mid '90s pop emo is hard to pull off right but a few bands did it right at the time...

All the regulars, really.

ahhh <3

Heroin are great!

you might enjoy my band http://www.myspace.com/whatpricewonderland

we kinda mix faster 90s emo with funky post punk type stuff.. will be more obvious when have new material up i guess

Joe C wrote:why no mention of Nate Kinsellas latest lp as Birthmark? beautiful record

^^ Nice. I'm down. Thanx. I like your band too Joe. Props.


About other bands.. yeah, of course Jawbreaker for days. Waiting curiously and patiently for the Thorns Of Life stuff to come out. Jets To Brazil had some moments.

I got back into Giant's Chair recently. Underrated mid 90's US stuff, but we love that kind of thing right? heh. Caulfield Records was/is the place to go for the 'Chair.

Some of the recent Able Baker Fox stuff is ok - post Small Brown Bike/Coalesce/Casket Lottery, etc. action for ya, if you haven't checked it out. "Voices" was a good release from last year.

END OF A YEAR << look into them. Rites of Spring for the NOW generation. I'm a fan. Recommended. SERIOUSLY.

Old Canes anyone? Chris Crisci from Apple Seed Cast's rawkin folk project from a few years ago. Good.

On a similar tip, i listen to ALOT of Rocky Votolato.

Smart Went Crazy - old gems worth digging back up

Constatine Sankathi

400 Years

and any and all Jawbox for the win - worth digging into again.


lots more, given the day/week/month of inspiration.

btm wrote:Some great bands mentioned already in this thread, any of you guys into more European emo/screamo bands?

Mihai Edrisch, La Quiete, Daitro, Louise Cyphre, Belle Epoque, Le pré où je suis mort, Raein, Neil on Impression, Ekkaia

^^ i love checking new stuff out, from abroad as well. Keep recommending more. Cheers.

was well into some of this stuff around 95/96


Split Lip was real good. Then they were called Chamberlain.

all the Jade Tree stuff. Texas had ties to my hometown thru the band Copper..

lots of mystique around this stuff, a real special time from American rock imo