Finding the key of a sample

JFK · Post by **JFK** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:39 pm

Yo, before anyone says anything I have tried the search option and had no joy so here goes...................

Is there a piece of software available that can help determine the key that a particular sample is written in? Kind of like how Recycle can give you the tempo of a drum loop but with the key instead.

Or alternatively a piece of software that lets you change the key to one of your choice?

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:53 pm

I know the NNXT in reason 4 does

JFK · Post by **JFK** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:20 pm

Hmmm, I dont really fancy shelling out for Reason just for that. Is that he only one out there?

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:24 pm

Most DAW packages have analysis tools which can tell you the key of your audio.

Well worth a look is Reaper. It has a pitch detection plugin called ReaTune, which not only can detect the pitch & key of your audio, but also allows you to 'correct' or change the pitch/key of your audio.

Other progs worth checking out are Autotune and Melodyne. Both allow for pitch detection and pitch shifting.

Finally, Audacity and Adobe Audition both have pitch/'key detection facilities as well as pitch shifting and timestretching. The key difference between Autotune and Melodyne vs Audacity and Audition are that the latter process destructively audio offline (non-real time).

Reaper is free to checkout, and ReaTune functions like Autotune/Melodyne in that it performs its wizardry both live and non-destructively!:D

If you're still stuck after that, google freeware pitch detection software/plugins and see what comes up. Similar to ReaTune without the pitch correction facilities is a plugin called GVST GTune.

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:30 pm

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DZA · Post by **DZA** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:34 pm

futures_untold wrote:And did you know that Haile Selassie I lived in Bath for 5 years?

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:45 pm

The_Dza88 wrote:

Why thank you!

You may be interested in this? ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vahANzg74

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:45 pm

two questions. I often see people asking this same question. Why do so many people want to find the key a vocal was recorded in? is it so they can match other sounds with the same note?

How do you find the key in Reason 4 using the nnxt?!

mickledan · Post by **mickledan** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:48 pm

can't detect it but can alter it

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:49 pm

Serox wrote:two questions. I often see people asking this same question. Why do so many people want to find the key a vocal was recorded in? is it so they can match other sounds with the same note?

How do you find the key in Reason 4 using the nnxt?!

Google harmonic mixing or harmonic theory. Tunes that contain harmonically related contents sound better than 'dissonant' ones (unharmincally related).

Reason 4 has an auto map function which maps samples by their root pitch (I think??). (DZA??)

mickledan · Post by **mickledan** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:49 pm

thats one of the only things missing from reason aside from vsti's (we don't want em really)

is a good suite of analsys tools, lord knows i c.b.a wiring up vocoders to meter stuff,

let alone any other more powerfull bits

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:58 pm

futures_untold wrote:
Serox wrote:two questions. I often see people asking this same question. Why do so many people want to find the key a vocal was recorded in? is it so they can match other sounds with the same note?

How do you find the key in Reason 4 using the nnxt?!
Google harmonic mixing or harmonic theory. Tunes that contain harmonically related contents sound better than 'dissonant' ones (unharmincally related).

Reason 4 has an auto map function which maps samples by their root pitch (I think??). (DZA??)

Just checked wiki and I think my comment above is right then if I understood it

I do not know any keys on a piano without looking tbh. What I try to do when making music is try and keep every noise either on the same key or one in the same scale, is this a good method to stick too?

mickledan · Post by **mickledan** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:59 pm

maybe it can maybe i should eat my hat full of words

set root note from pitch detection
automap zones
chromatically
create velocity crossfades

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:05 pm

MickleDan wrote:maybe it can maybe i should eat my hat full of words

set root note from pitch detection
automap zones
chromatically
create velocity crossfades

?

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:07 pm

Serox wrote:
MickleDan wrote:maybe it can maybe i should eat my hat full of words

set root note from pitch detection
automap zones
chromatically
create velocity crossfades
?

Read the ferkin' manual

You can batch import samples and I think you can also select multiple samples once they have already been imported, right click and choose some of those options from the menu...

I'm uncertain, cuz Reason 4 is DZAspawn

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:09 pm

futures_untold wrote:
Serox wrote:
MickleDan wrote:maybe it can maybe i should eat my hat full of words

set root note from pitch detection
automap zones
chromatically
create velocity crossfades
?

Read the ferkin' manual

You can batch import samples and I think you can also select multiple samples once they have already been imported, right click and choose some of those options from the menu...

I'm uncertain, cuz Reason 4 is DZAspawn

oh he was on about the NNXT. I will have a play around with it but I didn't have a clue what he was talking in reference too.

ketamine · Post by **ketamine** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:11 pm

futures_untold wrote:
You may be interested in this? ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vahANzg74

JFK · Post by **JFK** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:14 pm

Thanks for the input guys!! This has been a big help.

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