Stepping away from 140...

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Stepping away from 140...

Post by magma » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:30 am

... is it me, or do things really start to make sense again at around 134? 8)
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Post by hummer197933 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:40 am

hell yeah...
what dr.dre said...slower is better

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Post by Original Face » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:15 am

Interesting. I've been feeling the same. As Blackdown put it in a recent blog, "I feel an urge to drop the bpms and up the groove." (http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/)

I wonder whether we're starting to see a BPM split in the scene - with some going faster and harder and others going slower and funkier.

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Post by ponte_ricky » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:20 am

would it not make things quite difficult for djing though to fuck around with bpm?

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Post by magma » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:26 am

ponte_ricky wrote:would it not make things quite difficult for djing though to fuck around with bpm?
Doesn't seem to matter that much in other genres... DnB moves around a bit, so does a lot of house and oldschool rave stuff... Dubstep DJs have it easy at the moment as far as beatmatching goes!

Think about all the beatmatches a Hip Hop DJ has to do!
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Post by antics » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:19 am

if DMZ taught me anything, its that dubsteppers like to maintain their groove, so dont move the bpm tooooooo far....

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Post by wooda916 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:19 am

138 is my favourite bpm.

everything is super head-noddable or skank-outable there.

over 140 is too fast imo. (unless its dnb etc. of course)

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Post by r » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 am

150 .... jungggleeee or 130

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Post by theone1_ » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:58 am

Well I've noticed that whenever Skream does a remix of a tune it seems to be 146.. which was weird, but still works!

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Post by legend4ry » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:29 am

Haha ive had many of discussions with producers about this..

We have came to the conclusion..

130-138ish = more groove, soul, space.

139-145ish = more dance inclined energy.


Though this is pretty bollocks - seeing as you can get groove and energy out of any BPM if you try hard enough - it seems to be if you want something to nod your head to drop it down if you want to wave your hands like a flid on the dance floor - raise it.
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Post by webstarr » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:50 am

I move the tempo quite a bit, generally starting around 132/33 (though I have been known to go as low as 127) and building it up to 140

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Post by spencertron » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:00 pm

we've done our last 2 hafstep/dubsteppy tunes at 170bpm
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Post by lojik » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:20 pm

Oddly, while I'm starting to prefer making tunes at slow than 140 tempos, when I DJ I always pitch up about 4 or 5%.
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Re: Stepping away from 140...

Post by FSTZ1 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:06 pm

Magma wrote:... is it me, or do things really start to make sense again at around 134? 8)
yeah

I like anything faster than 125

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but slower isn't always better (sorry Dre)

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Post by DZA » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:09 pm

Surely its up to the DJ how fast its gonna be in the mix, so its never really gonna be its original tempo when being played out

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Post by FSTZ1 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:15 pm

^^^very true but I try not to speed anything up faster than 4% on the pitch slider

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Post by 86. » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:21 pm

Legendary wrote: Though this is pretty bollocks - seeing as you can get groove and energy out of any BPM if you try hard enough.

I think this as well.

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Post by Pallms » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:02 pm

I personally like 138.

Also, aren't many of the original dubstep tracks slightly lower than 140?

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Post by gravity » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:01 pm

hummer197933 wrote:hell yeah...
what dr.dre said...slower is better
bollocks

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Post by karmacazee » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:04 pm

133.5 is the danciest BPM of them all. You can go all night :D Can't remember who said that, some big producer or DJ...

I've been trying some of that 95bpm glitchop-hop/lazer base or whatever it's called stuff lately. Satisfying Jazzy/funky grooveland here I come!
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