It is now funny to flaunt male nudity all over a movie??

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It is now funny to flaunt male nudity all over a movie??

Post by s & m » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:54 am

Ok i just saw Bruno tonight, and being a big fan of Borat and Sasha Cohen in general, and all the hype the movie had, i thought it was going to be at least pretty good. But no...All I see is disgusting male nudity (I am a male btw), and WAY over the top homosexuality.. I mean i have no problem with homosexuals but this move was just ridiculous. There is literally like a straight minute of penis-in-your-face that takes up the whole screen.. I didnt even know rated R could even show this shit??? i mean it's not even FUNNY. all the funny bits were on the previews. ..anybody else see it? thoughts? comments?

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Post by morro_e » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:29 am

wow i wanna see this

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Re: It is now funny to flaunt male nudity all over a movie??

Post by Pi-Krust » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:19 am

s & m wrote:Ok i just saw Bruno tonight, and being a big fan of Borat and Sasha Cohen in general, and all the hype the movie had, i thought it was going to be at least pretty good. But no...All I see is disgusting male nudity (I am a male btw), and WAY over the top homosexuality.. I mean i have no problem with homosexuals but this move was just ridiculous. There is literally like a straight minute of penis-in-your-face that takes up the whole screen.. I didnt even know rated R could even show this shit??? i mean it's not even FUNNY. all the funny bits were on the previews. ..anybody else see it? thoughts? comments?
Bruno is a gay stereotype exaggerated to the max for comic effect and also designed to expose peoples innate prejudices [seems to have worked pretty well in your case :wink: ].thinks you're missing the point somewhat here.

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Re: It is now funny to flaunt male nudity all over a movie??

Post by magma » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:46 am

bassmonk wrote:Bruno is a gay stereotype exaggerated to the max for comic effect and also designed to expose peoples innate prejudices [seems to have worked pretty well in your case :wink: ].thinks you're missing the point somewhat here.
Exactly. I haven't seen it, but Sacha Baron Cohen's tactic is normally to confront you with something so graphically that you have no choice but to either get offended or laugh your head off.

If you're one of the offended ones then, sorry, but as big a fan as you might be.... you're his target and you got served.
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Post by faust.dtc » Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:54 am

Yeah it was overly gay and really digusting at time but what was you really expecting? Baron Cohen is playing an over the top gay person and his style is to play it for the shock value. Personally i knew what to expect and even though its not really to my taste I thought it was laugh out loud funny.

That minute of the cock swinging around the screen was very cringeworthy but it was also very funny...especially when you japs eye shouted 'BRUNO' lol

I only went to see this because my missus wanted to watch it but now i think about it the audience was made up entirely of straight couples. Not a homophobe. in sight...

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Post by surface_tension » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:06 am

There is only so much humor to be had from playing against hateful stereotypes.

There was an American talk show that thought it would be funny to ambush a straight guy with a "secret admirer" who happened to be gay. Well, he didn't HAPPEN to be gay, they did it on purpose because the squirming made for better TV ratings. Straight guy was so embarrassed and enraged he went home and killed the gay guy. That is not to justify the killing, which was a hate crime in and of itself, but to say that playing stereotypes for laughs can have dire consequences when it's as in your face as this shit is. And it's not that funny to begin with. What is funny about homophobes, racists etc? HAHA, Hitler hates Jews!!! HAHA, the KKK hates black people!!! Hilarious isn't it? No. It's disgusting.

If some guy started getting undressed and trying to rub his penis on me, I'd knock him the fuck out. And I'm about as far from homophobic as you can get. It's called personal space. Ambush someone and put a camera in their face to catch them off guard because that is "real"? No. That is really how they will react when some guy tries to rub his balls on them. Which happens exactly how many times on any given day? Probably never.

You get a black guy and a white guy and you put them into a situation where they are fighting each other on the street, racial slurs will fly from even the most tolerant of mouths. Putting anyone into an uncomfortable position and judging them based on shit they said in an emotion fight or flight state is absurd. It's also not funny.

And another thing... how would you like it if every time someone was describing something bad they said

"Man, that was FAUST.DTC"

"Man, that was Dubstep"

As if everything that is shit in the world is associated with YOU and your lifestyle?

Calling things GAY amounts to hate speech IMO and shouldn't be tolerated in any social setting by rational adult human beings. If someone came on here and began denigrating someone for their religion or their skin tone, you can bet your ass they would be banned within 10 seconds of clicking the submit button.

I don't want to hear any "I meant it as HAPPY" because you fucking know you didn't. Nobody uses the term GAY to mean happy. When used in the context of negative connotations it is equally as vile and disgusting as calling a black man a "n*****" or "BOY" or some shit. Fucking where is your head at? There are gay people who post on this forum.
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Post by __________ » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:09 am

Surface_Tension wrote:I'm about as far from homophobic as you can get.
haha ur gehy

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Post by surface_tension » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:13 am

£10 Bag wrote:haha ur gehy
Clearly. My life partner and I just adopted this baby from Vietnam.
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Post by __________ » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:17 am

why would you import a baby? :o

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£10 Bag wrote:why would you import a baby? :o
American babies just don't get the mileage that foreign babies do these days. With fuel surcharges and all...
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Post by faust.dtc » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:23 am

Wow dude, way to right an essay. You scream gay rights... Image
Surface_Tension wrote:And another thing... how would you like it if every time someone was describing something bad they said

"Man, that was FAUST.DTC"
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Surface_Tension wrote:There are gay people who post on this forum.
Speak for yourself gay boy... :lol:

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Post by magma » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:27 am

Surface_Tension wrote:What is funny about homophobes, racists etc? HAHA, Hitler hates Jews!!! HAHA, the KKK hates black people!!! Hilarious isn't it? No. It's disgusting.
This is the point of it though. It is disgusting that these people exist and act this way. People who think homosexuals are evil/perverse/disgusting are out of step with how society would like to be and by embarrassing them in front of the world, you hopefully make it obvious that these sort of opinions aren't acceptable.

It's just a modern version of Alf Garnett or, for a more American example, Stetson Kennedy infiltrating, exposing and ridiculing the KKK using Superman. Get these things out in the open so that people can make use of their frown power... humans HATE being looked down on by the people around them.

I agree with the personal space thing though... I think it's somewhat better to give people enough rope to hang themselves (for example the racist/sexist/pro-slavery students in Borat - they just needed enough time to say what they thought) than ambushing someone's face with your cock. I'd probably kick off if someone did that to me, too... in fact, I'd not be best pleased if a lady ran up to me in public and waved her bits at me.... I'm far too British for that kind of embarrasment.
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Post by aftee » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:50 am

Surface_Tension wrote: And another thing... how would you like it if every time someone was describing something bad they said

"Man, that was FAUST.DTC"

"Man, that was Dubstep"

As if everything that is shit in the world is associated with YOU and your lifestyle?

Calling things GAY amounts to hate speech IMO and shouldn't be tolerated in any social setting by rational adult human beings.
This is just ridiculous. Anyone who gets enraged at people saying "thats gay" is either an overly sensitive homosexual or an idiot. There is such a thing as slang in the world, saying "thats gay" isn't an insult to homosexuals, unless it is purposefully meant in that way. As offended as you're getting over that I'd think you were a part of those hilary duff commercials snapping on people who say "thats so gay". KNOCK IT OFF.

"Thats gay" is along the lines of "thats stupid" clearly, it is not an insult to gays. It does not mean that all gays are stupid. Stop putting the two together.
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Post by did » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:11 am

i agree a lot with surface tension. they expect them not to react badly when someone is shoving a cock in their face? it'd make me very uncomfortable. it'd be the same if he was straight, or even an ugly woman. personal space man. noone likes that shit

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Post by surface_tension » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:15 am

Aftee wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote: And another thing... how would you like it if every time someone was describing something bad they said

"Man, that was FAUST.DTC"

"Man, that was Dubstep"

As if everything that is shit in the world is associated with YOU and your lifestyle?

Calling things GAY amounts to hate speech IMO and shouldn't be tolerated in any social setting by rational adult human beings.
This is just ridiculous. Anyone who gets enraged at people saying "thats gay" is either an overly sensitive homosexual or an idiot. There is such a thing as slang in the world, saying "thats gay" isn't an insult to homosexuals, unless it is purposefully meant in that way. As offended as you're getting over that I'd think you were a part of those hilary duff commercials snapping on people who say "thats so gay". KNOCK IT OFF.

"Thats gay" is along the lines of "thats stupid" clearly, it is not an insult to gays. It does not mean that all gays are stupid. Stop putting the two together.
That's Black of you.

That's Jewish of you.

What... you find that offensive? Quit putting the two together. I wasn't talking about Black people or Jews. I was talking about stupid people. Stop putting the two together.

That's Mick. What, I'm on Irish now? No, you're projecting. Stop being so ******.

Wait that is offensive to black people? That is offensive to Jewish people? That is offensive to Irish people?

I can't believe that anyone would be offended by me adding a derogatory connotation to their lifestyle which they were born into and had absolutely no ability to change, or by me using racial slurs in the general context of a sentence. Clearly I wasn't INTENDING to hurt anyone's feelings with my words right? Surely THEY will understand right?

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Anyone who gets enraged at people saying "thats gay" is either an overly sensitive homosexual or an idiot.
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We don't want your fucking business if you are a bigot. If you can't follow a philosophy of live and let live, or at the very least not spout your hateful bullshit, don't buy our shit. If you have already bought our releases and this includes you, get in contact with me and I'll buy the record back from you, we don't do business with bigots. Social sanctions are the way forward in terms of bigotry IMO.

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Post by pk- » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:27 am

lol

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Post by aftee » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:28 am

People don't say "thats homosexual" or "thats homophobe."

It has no prejudice behind it and if you take it that way you need to calm down a bit.

I'm not going to judge somebody as a bad person by saying "thats jewish" to describe somebody as greedy. They aren't burning crosses and banning gay marriage. It's not hateful, it's slang that has been around for quite a while.
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Post by tr0tsky » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:33 am

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