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ok.. why the hate?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:10 pm
by urbannerd62
I'm a huge dubstep fan. Been obsessed with it for going on 2 1/2 years now. I live in California, USA, and I try to go to every dubstep show possible and make sure it gets the hype it deserves.

In september there is a massive rave here in Cali that Skream will be attending, and a number of other great producers. Ive been hyping it up by posting up the info on every message board/forum I can. Sadly, I've received alotta replies like this:

"dude fuck california and all you americans, UK's where the real dubsteps at, I bet your favorite producer is rusko you mainstream loving homophobe.", or "you wankers dont deserve to listen to dubstep, im sure youll turn it into crap like you do other genres."

My initial reaction isn't really anger because this is the internet :| but instead, confusion. We are all fans of this genre arent we? Secondly, Rusko's alright, but anyone who's chatted with me for more than 10 minutes about dubstep knows Im a fanatic for producers like Trolley Snatcha, Cookie Monsta, Stenchman, Cluekid, Bar9, and others like them.

So what's the problem? Is this how most dubstep fans from the UK view American fans? Or have I just run into a couple simple minded twats?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:19 pm
by circadian
Simple minded twats.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:20 pm
by dreadnort
circadian wrote:Simple minded twats.
pretty much yeh

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:24 pm
by gantzgraf
i think these people should make u laugh instead of confusing :) they are all over the internet u know

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:34 pm
by dubstee
Dubstep in California is an abomination tbh.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:34 pm
by finkthast
:o be interesting to see how this thread runs
fukin crazy how peeps don't consider other peoples position, knowledge, needs and tastes man. sum stupid self righteous wankers up in here.

people get way too posessive over their percieved knowledge of wots best for a scene and wots acceptable musically. every style n sound has a time n a place innit!

fuck the haterz bro. just believe in wot ur doin.

Re: ok.. why the hate?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:34 pm
by Pada
UrbanNerd62 wrote: Secondly, Rusko's alright, but anyone who's chatted with me for more than 10 minutes about dubstep knows Im a fanatic for producers like Trolley Snatcha, Cookie Monsta, Stenchman, Cluekid, Bar9, and others like them.
Not being funny but the people who said "bet you like Rusko" would not be impressed by those artists they are all from the jump-up/Rusko/wobble school of dubstep just because they are more unknown does not make them any better, in fact Rusko has higher production values and so would be held in higher regard.

Personally don't really enjoy that kind of dubstep but not because it's commercial, it's because when I got into dubstep it was because it was dark, moody and the tunes weren't just trying to be harder or faster you could have slow tunes that weren't hype that were the biggest tune in the genre - and the wobblefest that's going on really isn't in line with that vision - the odd tune is fine, but none of this hype for 2 hours shit.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:40 pm
by karmine
Its just standard human reactions from the simpler minded. "your not from my tribe - so fuck off"

Its every where, north v south of england, west v east in london, E18 v E13 post code wars all the way down to sub hate in each postcode.

I'm afraid your pretty much stuck with it. Check out a track by jakes called haterz. It gives the best and only advice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTEU4E4BQo

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:40 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
BAWWWWWWWWWW!

Re: ok.. why the hate?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:47 pm
by reptilian
to me trolley snatcha, cookie monsta and stenchman bear absolutely no relationship whatsoever to what i originally liked about dubstep

NONE WHATSOEVER - it might as well be a totally different genre of music

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:49 pm
by yong
dubstee wrote:Dubstep in California is an abomination tbh.

how so?

is it my fault?

:lol:

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:49 pm
by ♫♪♫
nevermind

Re: ok.. why the hate?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:49 pm
by Pada
Reptilian wrote:to me trolley snatcha, cookie monsta and stenchman bear absolutely no relationship whatsoever to what i originally liked about dubstep

NONE WHATSOEVER - it might as well be a totally different genre of music
This.

Does this make us elitist? Do we not like it because it's popular? no we don't like it because it's not what we love about the music. Can't people get that into their heads?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:57 pm
by abZ
KARMINE wrote:Its just standard human reactions from the simpler minded. "your not from my tribe - so fuck off"

Its every where, north v south of england, west v east in london, E18 v E13 post code wars all the way down to sub hate in each postcode.

I'm afraid your pretty much stuck with it. Check out a track by jakes called haterz. It gives the best and only advice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTEU4E4BQo
That blows man. In America for the most part there is respect, love and support from coast to coast. I guess it is one reason to be thankful for where we live.

People really need to step back and take a look at what they are doing. Seems so silly to me that people take a song or producer that they don't like as a personal insult. It really makes no sense.

Re: ok.. why the hate?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:58 pm
by dubstee
adisize wrote:
Reptilian wrote:to me trolley snatcha, cookie monsta and stenchman bear absolutely no relationship whatsoever to what i originally liked about dubstep

NONE WHATSOEVER - it might as well be a totally different genre of music
This.

Does this make us elitist? Do we not like it because it's popular? no we don't like it because it's not what we love about the music. Can't people get that into their heads?
this

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:04 pm
by grime suspect
haha dont worry UK stands for

U Kunts

big up america !!!

:roll:

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:26 pm
by boy_arena
can i ask what forum have you got that kind of response from?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:41 am
by hpuk
dubstee wrote:Dubstep in California is an abomination tbh.
Go listen to some of these then :

Antiserum
Eskmo
Jus Wan
Roommate
Ripple
Quest

etc.

And if you can't appreciate them then I don't think ur in the right scene mate :wink:

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:48 am
by Sharmaji
wait a minute, someone was ignorant 'pon the interwebz????