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What works best for you ?
1 - pitch the break 1st to make it same speed as the tune
2 - slice as it is and have little gaps between the elements if break is faster or missing bits if slower

recycle


http://www.propellerheads.se/products/recycle/

whatever works. Sometimes timestretch, sometimes pitch, sometimes proper cutting. I prefer cutting

drift wrote:recycle


http://www.propellerheads.se/products/recycle/

Does Recycle do clean timestretching, say from 180 to 140 BPM without audible artefacts?

Daft tnuc wrote:2 - slice as it is and have little gaps between the elements if break is faster or missing bits if slower

with SliceX (FL)

Slice breaks first (always try to preserve the attacks of the hits) and then program my pattern. Then pitch/gate/vol envelope/etc.. if necessary.

recycle for sure, then load into an exs24-- negates the issues of timestretching.

TeReKeTe wrote:recycle for sure, then load into an exs24-- negates the issues of timestretching.

Perhaps, but a lot of work goes into slicing. Recycle has a funny way of placing the markers on an waveform. Often find that I have to either setup them manually, or open up a wave editor, generate the markers where I want them on the wave file, save the file and then use the auto detect feature in recycle. The latter is a lot longer, but it make sure recycle places the markers where you actually want them.

Recycle looks handy. I thought it was about 50 € or so but 230 for a goddamn beatslicer... Laziness is expensive these days!

set warp points in ableton live and slice to midi

it doesn't warp the audio just acts as the start points like recycle without having to use a separate program

Daft tnuc wrote:Recycle looks handy. I thought it was about 50 € or so but 230 for a goddamn beatslicer... Laziness is expensive these days!

230 for something that really should have been included in the program itself

wasteeee

i slice in soundforge and then put the slices in kontakt.

normally only do minimal processing before slicing, eq and maybe some compression or limiting. for pitching and stuff i wait till its chopped and pitch/process in kontakt.

hurlingdervish wrote:set warp points in ableton live and slice to midi

it doesn't warp the audio just acts as the start points like recycle without having to use a separate program

Interesting, I didn't realize it didn't warp it. I have been doing it manually for all this time - this changes things.

crytek wrote:
Perhaps, but a lot of work goes into slicing. Recycle has a funny way of placing the markers on an waveform. Often find that I have to either setup them manually, or open up a wave editor, generate the markers where I want them on the wave file, save the file and then use the auto detect feature in recycle. The latter is a lot longer, but it make sure recycle places the markers where you actually want them.

who said slicing doesn't involve effort ? my guess is that if it was easy, we'd have a lot more chopped-jungle d&b out as opposed to meathead fistpump 2-step beats.

Recycle definitely beats loading into an s2000 and then finding the slice points by dialing in #'s.

Get the demo of FL I think fruity slicer is included. Works a fucking absolute dream.

TeReKeTe wrote:

crytek wrote:
Perhaps, but a lot of work goes into slicing. Recycle has a funny way of placing the markers on an waveform. Often find that I have to either setup them manually, or open up a wave editor, generate the markers where I want them on the wave file, save the file and then use the auto detect feature in recycle. The latter is a lot longer, but it make sure recycle places the markers where you actually want them.

who said slicing doesn't involve effort ? my guess is that if it was easy, we'd have a lot more chopped-jungle d&b out as opposed to meathead fistpump 2-step beats.

Recycle definitely beats loading into an s2000 and then finding the slice points by dialing in #'s.

My whole mini rant was really about how Recycle places the markers on any break other than the action break (or a break with well defined peaks in them). I agree, it does beats loading it in a hardware sampler, but I'd personally like doing it in hardware. That or either take the soundforge route and do it that way first.

yea i use an older version of recycle that still has scsi transfer to my s2000
easiest way of setting points though when sampling from a vinyl is to pitch it down to the max to make finding the points easier then pitch back to normal when you load it into a sampler
sometimes when quantizing a beat though you may need to add some air from a hit or reverse the initial sample and add it to the tail end or take that slice and find a suitable point to chop and extend
ahhh i love working with breaks
the initial choppage is half the fun

recycle all the way 4 me

dj instigate wrote:recycle all the way 4 me

Yeah, Big up the recycle crew!

The soundforge method above looks interesting tho.....